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Why Does The US Need Immigration? Change My Mind!
This is a discussion on Why Does The US Need Immigration? Change My Mind! within the General Prepper and Survival Talk forums, part of the Survivalist, Prepper, Bushcrafter, Forest Rangers category; Originally Posted by Slippy
I've posted on this multiple times, that the US needs to shut down Immigration for at least 10 years. Totally shut ...
While your idea resonates--and I do mean it's tempting--it won't fly so long as we have Democrats in Congress to block it. Also, cutting off immigration completely will starve many of our high tech industries and health care providers of foreign talent they badly need since our own schools are NOT turning out enough talent in those areas. I'm dead set against all illegal immigration (hell, I live in Arizona where 75,000+ were detained in February of this year) but I have nothing against legal immigration. Right now we are still the country that offers the greatest opportunity for advancement and a good life for millions of people who live in the third world. If I lived there I'd want to come here too and I'll bet so would you. I've travelled the world (courtesy of the US Navy) and there's no place anywhere that offers our degree of freedom and opportunity. That's why so many are trying to get in before the Southern Border is walled off. I am in favor of any wall or other measure that prevents human trafficking and illegal immigration. But once you've shown people how we live you cannot shut the door to them. Most just want a better life for themselves and their family and they lack the means to make that happen in their own countries. I'm no bleeding heart. I'm just a realist and the reality is that since the only consequence they face for invading us is a slap on the wrist and possible deportation back where they came, they don't have any real incentive to stop coming here. Oh, and most aren't coming here to freeload off of us. Sure, some do, but then way too many of our own citizens are doing the same thing. Most want to work, hard if necessary, to better themselves. Most aren't criminals, except for breaking our immigration law. What we need is a better system to handle the influx legally--better screening for criminals and slackers, but how would you like to be put on a thirty year waiting list? We need immigration reform that is based in reality and takes into account that some countries--India, for example--produce very well educated and well trained doctors and high tech workers that we need here. And yes, we need stoop labor for many of our crops. The problem is right now we're building a wall we should have built fifty years ago and that is incentivising illegals to run for our border as fast as they can. They don't need incentives from the Democrats or a-hole billionaires like Soros. They are panicking at the thought of being shut out.
Originally Posted by Slippy
If the flood of illegals continues and their first experience on entering our country is to be treated like criminals, despised and made to feel unwanted they will vote Democrat as soon as they can--because they will believe Democrat lies about caring for them. But if they are allowed to work and prosper they will soon see through Democrat lies and will vote conservative and usually Republican. I've seen this happen with former illegals who became citizens.
I know I probably haven't changed your mind, but I hope I've given you something to think about.
The real problem is that we, the voters, haven't drained the swamp in DC, and that's on us.
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Hey @Wryter ….. I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but I'm guessing you didn't sway Ole' Slip's mind one bit for even a second, huh?
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