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Idea regarding sleep during a bug-out in the wild scenaryo
This is a discussion on Idea regarding sleep during a bug-out in the wild scenaryo within the General Prepper and Survival Talk forums, part of the Survivalist, Prepper, Bushcrafter, Forest Rangers category; If alone you find a place off the path leave no sign you walked in use a simple lean to and Camouflage the best you ...
If alone you find a place off the path leave no sign you walked in use a simple lean to and Camouflage the best you can. The harder it is to get to the spot you pick the better. Done right a lean to is easy to hide. I have stayed dry in some long hard down pours in a proper lean to. And stayed warm in some real cold weather.
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Older thread but I was just scanning to see if anybody really was aware of the OP's idea of sleeping in a safety harness. And I see Denton is the winner... Chicken dinner!
Originally Posted by Denton
I also have used these torture devices while 40 feet in the air doing electrical work on parking lot lights and absolutely no is the answer to elevate yourself in one of these medieval torture devices. No they are not meant to hang around and if you did end up hanging around in one of these you better hope help is on the way pronto before you lose blood flow to your leg and junk causing permanent damage to you body. Dumb Ideas you will certainly pay for and this is one of them!
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Lots of unknown variables. Some terrain and conditions it would be better to move at night without lights even without night vision than to try and move during the day.
If you have a large group 20 or more you set some look outs away from the group for protection. Called an LP for listening or lookout position. Usually maned by 2 sometimes 3 . One awake one asleep they get in position without being seen and stay put without drawing attention.
Smaller group you set a rotating watch in the best cover / concealment you can find. Deep trees, Brush, cave no lights, little noise, no cooking odors, Side of a hill not on top where you are easily seen.
If your group is OK with climbing trees and you got at least a rope to tie yourself in once up it could work in some areas . But climbing trees is pretty tough for most people.
A simple rope harness is lighter to carry and can be tied to other ropes to make it longer / use for other purposes. If the area you are in requires a lot of climbing / repelling than yes a climbing harness would be helpful . Stay away from heavy safety gear rather look at sport gear at places like REI.
If by yourself I would try and hole up during the day and move at night in most country. Again depends on moon cycle and terrain.
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Having worn fall protection professionally, I say you wouldn't get any sleep in it.
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I would suggest doing what people have done for 12,000 years, bring a dog along. It's the easiest prep in the world. You don't even need to own a dog when the SHTF, there are plenty of them wandering around. Prep some food for the dog. He will follow you where ever you go. AFter a few days he will be locked into you. If someone or something comes around he will bark. That's easier, cheaper and more practical, I think, than sleeping in the trees.
Originally Posted by Gigio
The other problem with sleeping tied into a tree is that if you are seen you're stuck. You can't run. Ask any raccoon. Once you go up a tree that's where you are.
But the next question is.... how do you sleep without being seen at all? Now that's a different story. Hiding in plain sight sort of thing.
The tent I have in my BOB is a low profile, 1 person affair. I have a different tent if it's me and my wife. This thing is only about 2 feet tall and I can use brush to cover it pretty easily. So if you're looking to hide get stuff that's camouflage or at least not bright orange.
That isn't the exact one I use, but it gives you an idea. Not too hard to cover in brush. You could be 30 feet off the trail and not be seen, if you don't use a fire. That's why my bugout food is MRE's, not stuff that needs to be cooked. And it's why I use an alcohol stove for warming up coffee and such. No open fire in a conceal situation.
I did a lot of bug out drills in the suburbs. I would pitch my tent, eat and have coffee without anyone seeing me while walking or driving by.
Last edited by tonybluegoat; 09-21-2018 at 01:34 PM.
Yea, after all the replyes and stuff I clearly see that sleeping in a tree its not such a good idea haha.
Originally Posted by tonybluegoat
The problem I find with the dog is that 1. he consumes resources 2. if you're trying to hide, a dog moving, making noises and barking is not a good idea in my opinion 3. yea, the dog its a great tool to let you know theres people around but it forces you to interact with these people, maybe you wanted to know there was people close but didnt wanted to let them know you're there, well with the dog thats not possible. He just barked and revealed your location.
Unless its a highly trained dog that knows particular commands or you have 15 dogs that can fight off anything, I dont see this very practical.
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