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Should we carry tourniquets in our vehicles?

This is a discussion on Should we carry tourniquets in our vehicles? within the First Aid and Medical Preparedness forums, part of the Survivalist, Prepper, Bushcrafter, Forest Rangers category; Originally Posted by Lunatic Wrench using a tourniquet on strangers This is the concept that baffles me in modern America. If I save the life ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunatic Wrench View Post
    using a tourniquet on strangers
    This is the concept that baffles me in modern America. If I save the life of the stranger I can be sued or arrested. If I let the stranger die right before my eyes without touching him, I can walk home a free man. All people would have to say is, "I am not fully trained in artificial respiration." It's not your fault that you do not know all the cogent facts of every crisis.

    Well, that's really too noble to assign that concept to myself. If two bangers shot each other at the mall, yeah, I could walk away...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunatic Wrench View Post
    With my first aid/CPR training over the past 20 years it's been discussed many times that a tourniquet is the last resort to stop uncontrollable blood loss, I asked the retired Marine field medic to go into more detail on using one during my recent first aid recertification.
    This was indeed the common thought for many decades.
    However, recently it has been proven that, when properly applied, a commercial tourniquet can be left in place for hours and not result in any permanent damage to the limb.
    This article explains a bit more:
    https://www.breachbangclear.com/tour...ning-bleeding/

    Even on the kit that I linked to earlier with the picture, the packaging said that the tourniquet should not be left on for more than 6 hours. That is AMPLE time to get somebody to proper medical care.
    If the bleed is heavy, skip the fancy. Clamp that thing down and get moving.
    I think that's what you were getting at with the Marine's advice. I just wanted to make it crystal clear for others.
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    Yes, but, only if you are trained on application and use!
    Everyone should have a blowout kit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tango2X View Post
    Yes, but, only if you are trained on application and use!
    Everyone should have a blowout kit
    The other side of that. for me anyway, if I'm pumping blood from my femoral artery like a garden hose and unconscious or unable to apply my ternoquite myself, training be damned, please do your best and hopefully buy me enough time for EMS to arrive.
    Same applies if I'm trapped in my truck at the bottom of a ravine in the mountains in a cell phone dead zone.

    Here in Washington, being unconscious is considered applied consent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tourist View Post
    If you've caught the news lately it appears my area has turned over the main highways to idiots. Lots of crashes, flames and severe injuries. But like most of you, I have rudimentary items in my truck, and other than all stainless cutting tools I could give to a doctor, I got squat.

    I googled the Amazon site for info on tourniquets, and I found the items rather inexpensive. And in a world where my associates and my myself all carry sharp knives, even a stupid accident could take someone's life.

    I'm going to buy two of these tourniquets. One for my truck, one for my wife's SUV. I feel this is like my defensive pistol, I hope I never have to use these things, but this is not the world I first knew.

    What's your opinion?

    https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...ial/8297436011
    Us old Boy Scouts was taught to use our official boy scout belt as a tourniquet in an emergency situation. Have you got an official belt?

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    Yes, buy it
    Yes, carry it your vehicle
    Yes, use it if necessary
    And yes I do all of the above. Haven’t needed to use one yet, but I want the option.
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    What the heck is it coming to??!! Try to have the injured person sign a release before you try to stop them from bleeding to death? Shameful the way things have become. Or do your best and walk away so as not to be found accountable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwheel View Post
    Have you got an official belt?
    Yes, but it has cartridges jammed into all the loops...
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    As with any piece of medical equipment one chooses to carry, get proper training on how, when, and why to use it. For those of you who don't know, I'm a paramedic and many times I've come across good intention-ed laypersons trying to do something they saw on TV but it was actually very wrong. Among other things I've seen have been people performing CPR on someone who was still awake, throwing water on someone who overdosed to try and wake them up (it never works), and tourniquet application. There have been other times laypersons got it right. Performed CPR right away, put direct pressure on a wound, did the Heimlich maneuver things like that.

    If you want to have a tourniquet ready to go, fine. Just know how to use it properly. They are for massive blood loss from arterial lacerations on an arm or a leg. Put the tourniquet above the wound and tighten it until bleeding stops. Tourniquet's are not to be used for bleeding from a joint like the shoulder, abdominal or torso wounds, nor should you put a tourniquet on someone's neck. Again with any piece of equipment you use get the right training on how to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tourist View Post
    If you've caught the news lately it appears my area has turned over the main highways to idiots. Lots of crashes, flames and severe injuries. But like most of you, I have rudimentary items in my truck, and other than all stainless cutting tools I could give to a doctor, I got squat.

    I googled the Amazon site for info on tourniquets, and I found the items rather inexpensive. And in a world where my associates and my myself all carry sharp knives, even a stupid accident could take someone's life.

    I'm going to buy two of these tourniquets. One for my truck, one for my wife's SUV. I feel this is like my defensive pistol, I hope I never have to use these things, but this is not the world I first knew.

    What's your opinion?

    https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...ial/8297436011


    Do not buy the Chinese copy of the CAT Tourniquets. They have proven themselves to fail during use. The plastic windlass is not very strong and will snap when cranking down on it. Try to go with actual military issue or equivalent. If you must go cheap then check out this Chinese version of the SOFT tourniquet. I did buy several of these after testing one and it is pretty durable.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Decdeal-One...8/303159744274

    I used to carry a small first aid kit in my truck but after helping at an accident scene I found it to be severly lacking so I upgraded to an older Combat Lifesaver bag with tourniquet, trauma dressings, SAM Splint, wound wash, Boo Boo kit with antibiotic cream, Sawyer Extractor, CPR mask and other stuff.

    Like Dwight said it is better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Just remember this stuff is in your vehicle for when ever you need it. Roadside emergencies, chain saw accidents, camping or other pleasure sport accidents. Its a tool waiting to be used.

    If you or anyone wants to read about a car accident with fatalities and lesson learned on medical kit here is the link.
    https://www.prepperforums.net/forum/...s-learned.html
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