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Is Healthcare in the US getting Better, Worse or just More Inconsistent?

This is a discussion on Is Healthcare in the US getting Better, Worse or just More Inconsistent? within the First Aid and Medical Preparedness forums, part of the Survivalist, Prepper, Bushcrafter, Forest Rangers category; Originally Posted by Denton The nurse practitioners have always been wrong, except for the one who saw my wife after I called as I was ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denton View Post
    The nurse practitioners have always been wrong, except for the one who saw my wife after I called as I was bringing her in, and the call was not a "friendly Denton" call.

    Now, having said that, let me say again, the internal med doctor is not in the least bit curious. Know what I mean? At least the nurses are always curious. They never seem to know, and I usually seem to have a better understanding, and they listen, trot off (I assume to read up) and then come back with the same thing I already knew.

    I'm not knocking NPs at all. It's just that when you hire a doctor, you expect to see the doctor, and you expect that doctor to be as curious as you are.
    No, I don't expect him to be Dr. House, but I do expect him to be just as much a detective as I am but with a greater level of knowledge.
    Whenever I am scheduling an appointment, they try to offer an NP as well. It's an HMO bottom line thing obviously... hire less docs, herd more through.
    I ask "are you going to charge me less, or the same as a doctor"?
    "uh... yes the same".
    "Then a doctor please."
    I have nothing against NP's either... but if they are going to charge for a doctor, then a doctor it will be.
    The smartass in me wants to ask how much to have the janitor look me over... but I have so far resisted the temptation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StratMaster View Post
    Whenever I am scheduling an appointment, they try to offer an NP as well. It's an HMO bottom line thing obviously... hire less docs, herd more through.
    I ask "are you going to charge me less, or the same as a doctor"?
    "uh... yes the same".
    "Then a doctor please."
    I have nothing against NP's either... but if they are going to charge for a doctor, then a doctor it will be.
    The smartass in me wants to ask how much to have the janitor look me over... but I have so far resisted the temptation.
    I am so disgusted with me for not thinking of that!
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    We haven’t addressed the drug industry in this thread yet.
    I have always been very susceptible to ear infections. Years ago I had an infection while visting some backwater port (I don’t remember which country). I visited a local doc who had been trained in Russia. He treated my ear infection by soaking a strip of gauze in a black salve and packing it down inside my ear. Next day I was cured.

    Fast forward a few years later I had an ear infection here at home. My local family doc was a Russian immigrant obviously Russian trained. He prescribed the usual routine of strong antibiotics. I questioned him about the black salve. He laughed and knew it well. Said it was cheap and very effective. I asked why American doctors didn’t use the same cure. His answer, the drug companies.

    Our whole system isn’t patient centered. It’s all about the $.
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    I'll take a nurse practitioner. They remind me of medics.
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    I see part of the problem with health care is the money behind it. Drug companies are making WAY too much money. Even some staff positions are paid more than I think it's worth. Many years ago I said out loud to a group of people, "Why are hospitals advertising to come here when you have a baby" Isn't that a pretty normal place to go to have a baby? You may have to forgive my naive upbringing, but when did delivering life, saving lives and taking care of people become a 'business'.

    It could also be said about higher education. When did colleges become such a money maker-for the college? During the 90s and early 2000s I was a fool and watched the Today Show of a morning on NBC. News was different back then, not the same now. Anyway, I remember several years in a row when Matt Laurer told me who the top 10 party colleges were... I wonder if this list is similar to the best colleges to get raped at a party?

    Medicine isn't what it once was. Doctors didn't have to worry so much about medical malpractice insurance. Do doctors not care as much now? Are they not as smart as most were 50 years ago? We're able to test for so many things, yet there is still so much they don't understand about the human body. If we spent more money on medical research and less on NFL salaries & products, would we be better off as a nation?

    Who knows. I certainly have no clue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BookWorm View Post
    Drug companies are making WAY too much money.
    Looking at only one side of the ledger is a rookie error.

    Drug companies also came up with a drug that prevents open heart surgery. I'd have paid any amount.

    After your first bypass, if they invent a drug that prevents the next bypass, you'll understand.
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    I will be on Medicare in one month, I did purchase a supplement for drug coverage, according to my policy I will pay $180.00 per month and the most it will cost me for out of pocket is 6700.00 per year, and that is the max, all in co-pays, I have been relatively healthy all my life......
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    I’m not a believer in government solutions but one thing the US Government could do for its people and benefit all is increase competition and decrease regulation in health care. The US has such massive resources in health care a 2% redirection from its normal course of spending into medical schools and student recruitment/subsidized learning would flood the market with nurses, practitioners et al and the schools could be charged with caring for the indigent. Keep it up until the market bends in the people’s favor, and if someone wants catastrophic insurance let them buy it already.

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    After three decades in business, I say this: "healthy" competition isn't.

    I don't want a doctor who can win open competition in business. Medicine is a cooperative affair. Everything from the research through to hospice is a team effort.
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    Sorry but take the market out (no competition) and you just pay what the medical union demands for mediocrity. That is how socialism rolls and the competition serves everyone better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jammer Six View Post
    After three decades in business, I say this: "healthy" competition isn't.

    I don't want a doctor who can win open competition in business. Medicine is a cooperative affair. Everything from the research through to hospice is a team effort.

 

 
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