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Is Healthcare in the US getting Better, Worse or just More Inconsistent?

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    Its not healthcare any more, it is healthbusiness. The personal care and relationships are mostly gone as the process is bogged down by protocols and layers of corporate oversight. In recent years I have gone to see a former Dr about a particular issue and brought up another inquiry, and was told I would have to make another appointment to discuss it, as per insurance rules. Doesn't sound like healthcare to me, does it?


    These days in reality, I have it better than most and likely as good as it can get. As a result of my wife being employed in the OR at a hospital, I have great insurance with a low deductible and easy premiums. I also found a Doctor that my Dad used, who runs his small general practice like a family affair ….. He has only one nurse, his wife ….. his front receptionist is his daughter.
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    I've gone from $40 a month company plan for Med/dent/vision and a $2k deductible 15 years ago to $350 for Med. $6K deductible company plan with same Ins company. I'm paying out more for my recent $25k surgery then I paid for my $40k surgery 12 years ago.

    But hey, if you just commissioned a new mega yacht, you're going to need a brand new helicopter to go with it right?
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    I have great doctors. They helped me through psychiatric therapy, lots of "reassurance" meetings, several "soft tissue" oral exams, and a spooky eye operation.

    Only in America.

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    I think people are so out of touch with reality, that every ailment they have they feel they need to get to an ER or a Doctor. People cant take care of themselves for the most part. Doctors/Nurses are understaffed overworked.
    I noticed after the wars, our military medicine became much better and technology due to experiences in the field made our docs and nurses better.
    I am sure many civilian docs/nurses benefited too.
    But, People in the USA generally dont take care of themselves. We dont treat our bodys like temples. We only do that to our cars, toys and gadgets.
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    I would say it depends on where you live in the United States. The more affluent areas will have the most skills doctors, surgeons, nurses and other specialists. This is not all the time of course but I would say generally people are attracted by money.

    I have had very good nurses give me advice and help me. I’ve had specialists who seem to have gotten their degree online.

    I voted it is better in a general sense. Our technology is getting better, and a good health care system is there. There are websites you can go to where doctors in your area are reviewed and if you like what you see you can set an appointment. Using the available information and getting a good doctor is more in our control than it was 20 years ago I would say.
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    It's the best in the world, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denton View Post
    With the exception of a couple doctors, it seems most I know or deal with aren't willing to think. They rely on tests and if their go-to tests reveal nothing, they say there is nothing to reveal.
    Sure, you leave with symptoms in tow, but you paid the 25 dollar copay and the insurance company is billed.

    I'm also not very happy with this idea of nurse practitioners seeing the patients so the office can run more cattle through the office.
    From what I see it is the nurse practitioners that are actually doing all the hard work, and still have the heart to care about what they are doing. Yes there are still some good Docs but the majority have become so stuck in their own worlds they can not think beyond its walls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tirednurse View Post
    From what I see it is the nurse practitioners that are actually doing all the hard work, and still have the heart to care about what they are doing. Yes there are still some good Docs but the majority have become so stuck in their own worlds they can not think beyond its walls.
    The nurse practitioners have always been wrong, except for the one who saw my wife after I called as I was bringing her in, and the call was not a "friendly Denton" call.

    Now, having said that, let me say again, the internal med doctor is not in the least bit curious. Know what I mean? At least the nurses are always curious. They never seem to know, and I usually seem to have a better understanding, and they listen, trot off (I assume to read up) and then come back with the same thing I already knew.

    I'm not knocking NPs at all. It's just that when you hire a doctor, you expect to see the doctor, and you expect that doctor to be as curious as you are.
    No, I don't expect him to be Dr. House, but I do expect him to be just as much a detective as I am but with a greater level of knowledge.
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    From what I understand a NP is just a pill pusher that is paid by the drug company's to go to school to get a degree and then partly pay off their education expenses by pushing the drug company's products. I can't prove it but that's what I've heard. And what I've personally seen mine and the wife's NP give out drugs to us. One time the wife got 9 different drugs for one office visit. There is more that I can site from personal experiance but you get the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ekim View Post
    From what I understand a NP is just a pill pusher that is paid by the drug company's to go to school to get a degree and then partly pay off their education expenses by pushing the drug company's products. I can't prove it but that's what I've heard. And what I've personally seen mine and the wife's NP give out drugs to us. One time the wife got 9 different drugs for one office visit. There is more that I can site from personal experiance but you get the picture.
    No, that is not correct. Not from my experience. The doctor under which they work will be more likely to be the pill pusher. He is the one who signs off on everything. I don't doubt their sincerity. I just wonder how much Google comes into play, from my experience.
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