What special challenges will the elderly experience in a SHTF situation?
In what ways can they be more prepared?
What special challenges will the elderly experience in a SHTF situation?
In what ways can they be more prepared?
I am not elderly so I don't have the entire perspective, but from where I stand the biggest issue would be health care. Medications would be out of supply, so how would this be addressed? My personal approach would be what I currently do, trying to learn herbalism and ways to stay healthy without pharmaceuticals. For most conditions, there is an herbal answer. Fractures and serious injuries can more easily occur also, so being well versed in first aid and having ample medical supplies on hand would be perhaps more essential for this age group, though we all need to look to that angle as much as possible.
My wife and I, as well as the elders in our family that do believe in the prepping idea, have already discussed this at some length. Those family members have decided they will live until they die, and that resources to save the young are not to be wasted on the old.
Sounds hard and cold in this age, but it is how they grew up. It falls of course to us to enforce their wishes. We do what we can, but waste nothing on a lost cause.
Access to life-saving medications.
Possible mobility issues.
Possible senility issues.
I don't think actual prepping would be that big of a deal.
Dealing with a shtf scenario probably would.
Extra canes for those who need them? Geritol?, Nitro for a year? Viagra? Perhaps a case of Ducolax?
Spare wheels for the walker?
I am prepared, at least I think I am, better than most.
By the way, what makes any of you think all old farts need to be prepped for?
I think based on the individual, they can prep for themselves and survive with that prepping.
I am not a spring chicken, but I have a better chance of survival post SHTF than most metroturds.
Thought the idea of preparing was so that we could be elderly.
Then I wonder will you be so flippant.
As for special prepping needs, it really depends.
For me, I'm not on any special medications, though I do have limitations.
Bad back, endurance issues, and in 10 years a new pacemaker will be required.
I value other older folks for the knowledge and life experiences.
I wouldn't be so quick to jettison them.
I have limitations also, as far as meds go, I have five years of it stored in a big freezer,
that came from cash out of pocket not insurance, and a brother, a doctor that wrote the scripts..
Who is talking about jettisoning any elderly, hell I never had an ejection seat in any aircraft I flew.
The grannies will both soon be living with us, along with a disabled bro-in-law. We're doing our best to make extra rooms and provisions for them here and we're adding rooms to the house. The grannies took care of us, and they won't die in a nursing home with no one to look after them. The disabled bro-in-law, well i promised his dad we'd look after him. He'll be here, too. Medications are gonna be a hard nut. All we can do is make sure they're re-filled on auto and rotate what little surplus that allows.
I'd love to know how many from the "great generation" are here on this forum. I'd love to hear what you have to say!
I think the question would have been better put if it was to address infirm people.
As posed, it assumes that all old people need special attention and or care.
You always want to rally around family. There is short intermediate and long term SHTF. First is yourself and your immediate family. What resources do the elderly or infirm have as well as require and what they can contribute. Make your decision, with them prior to SHTF so you can prepare.
Dammit Cricket! How the hell would I know? Geez.
The reality is that in a true SHTF situation where life and its conveniences change or stop, the first causalities will be the elderly, sick and the over weight. Medicine and medical equipment will become scarce or unable to operate adequately. One's time will be short and able to be calculated. Those that are extremely obese will be at a great disadvantage and will soon join the ranks of the sick.
It is extremely hard to prep in these areas for any great duration.
When at home, I often hear my wife say .... " Now (calls me by my full first name) that was ugly".
I often reply .... "Sometimes the truth is an ugly thing".
in some cases you would have deduced that I am an older person, probably the oldest on this forum that is active.
An example, I posted in a thread, that I got my HAM license in 1957, another, used the M1 Garand in the military.
At 76, I am an old buzzard, but I need no assistance and am still active and work in my shop almost every day.
People who meet me first time think I am in my early 60's, late 50's.
Mind still functions quite well and it is just as insane as 30 years ago.
No I hadn't read your other posts and I hope to be as active as you when I reach your age.
I have a couple of years yet.
My plan to prep for myself in old age is to hire my good friend @SOCOM42 to take care of me! :vs_closedeyes:
Seriously people, most "old" folk I know can whup most young metroturd's asses blindfolded and off-handed!
I guess I'm an old fart and proud of it, I turn 62 this Oct. But I tell ya what, I'll hitch my wagon with us old farts any day to those whose only claim to fame is they laid on the couch until they made it all the way though super mario bros.
I've known a hard days work, and still do. I know there are exceptions, but in general, the younger generation, a hard days work, and cold glass of water would kill them deader than hell.
Don't worry about taking care of me, I'll take care of myself, when I can't, then I'll be ready to leave this world.
Lot of us are going to die. Just a fact of life. So many I know are on 5-8 medication a day all kinds of stuff to keep them going. I have been lucky no regular meds to take. Days work won't kill me. But I am sure that will not last forever . At least in this life.
Mother in law is 85 and still going strong even with her age SHTF she would be an asset to have around.
I have also made it clear where I stand on how it ends for me. Wife, sons , daughter , Doctor everyone has a very clear understanding . Short version when I no long belong here let me go. Just before retiring We sat down and went over every detail and had everything updated. My oldest Son will make the call in my case. I know my wife would have to hard a time pulling the plug.
SHTF or not none of that changes , when time is up it is up I will not drag others down with me.
If you prepped for your family you have already prepped for the elderly , the infant, child birth or should have.
People have medications and it is true in our society older people have more medications on average than younger people you have to plan on how to stockpile that medication or how else to deal with it.
The obvious medical issue regardless of your age is insulin/ diabetes - for most people this is a diet and exercise controllable situation. So keep the weight off , exercise, monitor the blood sugar before a SHTF situation so you are healthier today and in a good position in the future.
Stop smoking, lose weight, exercise , reduce stress and you have your subscription for what to do to reduce heart attacks, stroke, developing diabetes. Losing wieght alone can help with low back pain and pain from falling arches.
There was an old book available for free as PDF. I lost it on my last computer but if I can think of the name I'll post back.
Mostly what I've been doing is learning about the herbs available here on our place, which is an astounding amount! Things like plantain, comfrey, nettles, fleabane, burdock, yellow dock and dandelion are all medicinal and can be harvested multiple ways for different applications.
I'm experimenting with infused oils and creating a workable eczema salve right now.
It humbles and amazes me every day how our God created so many little gifts right in our own backyards. I love learning about it all!
At 57 I have considered our age and done all I can to mitigate the foreseeable issues. We are in reasonable health and stronger in spirit and grit then most younger then us. Same for my Dad at 81. I am heavy on the medical side and have begun looking at home remedies and plants that can help along with antibacterial storage, vitamins, canes, wraps splints etc. We go till we can't go no more.
Let's face it, SHTF and people of all ages will die. Prepared or not. I am just trying to shade the odds a bit in my favor. :vs_smirk:
It's a quick read.
I am 63 years young, I am on my feet literally 12 hours a day at work. I watch these young kids just getting out of college and they can't seem to keep up with and old man like me. It is them I worry about. We have a homeopath and a naturopath in out family. I go to them most times I need something. I would much rather chew on willow bark than take an asprin. I am setting here at PDX at 0430 right now I see what is going on around me and I worry for them. We older can probably take care of our selves better than the youngins can take care of themselves.
Man you people are old. I'm 47 now and still feel mentally like 30ish. Physically there is some aches and pains but manageable. Every since Zack came home from the hospital I made it a mission to obtain oxygen. I was able to obtain a filled bottle and an unfilled bottle. Now I am working on getting the bottle filled. I ordered the masks off of ebay. They are supposed to be disposable but I ordered two each. One to be used and the other getting cleaned/sanitized and then put back into rotation. I got the face mask, nasal cannula and a rebreather mask.
I have been slowly acquiring other things like a couple walker, IV pole and I'm trying to get a simple wheel chair but the old farts at the auction are paying to much for it. I have most trauma and short term care covered, now I am slowly working on clinical items. I have the manual thermometer and blood pressure gauge now I have the electronic versions. The manual ones are now in the medic back pack for field use.
I have some threads on a couple different forums to meet people and was recently contacted by a gentleman in his 70's and that really opened my eyes to a lot of things. I wiped my kids buts when they came into this world, my kids better be ready to wipe mine when I am on my way out of this world. Someone a barely know, I don't know so much about that. I have military and law enforcement tactical training and army medic training but I cant be the family doc and lead tactically at the same time in a SHTF event. Any Doctors or RN's near Cadillac hit me up. If you provide your own food I can provide safety and security for you and yours.
My Mom is pushing 80 hard. She will not survive a bugout attempt. Plus the attention she requires would leaves me little time to "prep" and no time to secure the perimeter.
My folks are in their eighties. My father had open heart surgery in 81, and is on several types of meds, one of which is blood thinner. I've got a Goji bush that'll be planted this fall, am making propolis tincture and stocked up on aspirin. All these things can't be taken by people on blood thinners as they'll cause them to bleed out. That being the case, I'm hoping to have a substitute for at least one of his meds.
Leaving for the rally point will be impossible if the SHTF scene includes no automobiles, so keeping up with current events is a must so we can get a jump on things. Otherwise, we'll be in a pinch after several weeks.
What is "elderly"?
I'm 69, wife is 71. I am in pretty good shape medically, throwing a 50 pound sack of animal feed up on my shoulder to carry is getting harder but still doable.
Wife is partially disabled, but not on medication.
Getting older means finding alternate ways to perform tasks. I cannot bull my way thru using brute strength anymore.
Other than that, prepping is prepping.
My mother is on blood thinner, so I'm kind of in the same boat. I stock up on aspirin as well. I also stock up on Nattokinase. In my research I read an article a hematologist wrote and he was ask if someone didn't have access to prescription blood thinner, what he would recommend and he said Nattokinase. So I found them on Amazon and have been stocking up to have another option on hand. My mother is 87, and my plan is to do the very best for her as long as I can. That's really all any of us can do. After that it's up to God.
I have been slowly acquiring other things like a couple walker, IV pole and I'm trying to get a simple wheel chair but the old farts at the auction are paying to much for it.
Go visit your local American Legion or VFW. I know post that have a wheel chair, walker loaner program . They take in donations clean, repair then loan out to folks that need them. Not every post does this but again I know of at least one that does.