Say SHTF ,it is big time world it's self is a mess. Wait we are already there. Ok so it gets to the point no meds no food supply's ect. This is no 30 day deal it is the new world we face. If you have limited supplies of meds are you going to use them on a person that has a long list of health issue and not long for this world or are you going to use what you have to help the young that will recover and contribute . Tough choices you are going to be forced to make. You will be forced to make value judgements, on goods and on people.
Yes there are a lot of people 70 and up in pretty good shape, But look at the numbers most are on Meds they need to prolong life, with out them their health would go down hill fast.
Bee shit is known to have antibiotic uses, but be real if you come down with a major infection all the Bee shit you can get your hands on will not do the job.
We have many plants that can help but same case it it is serious chances are the tea you brew up will not work on a old persons that system is already weaking.
07-27-2017, 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by AquaHull
Do they take the supplement along with Metformin and or Januvia?
What special challenges will the elderly experience in a SHTF situation?
In what ways can they be more prepared?
In response to the question, I believe that prepping should happen in all age groups in accordance with your specific needs.
I know folks in their 70s that can outwork me and can kick my butt into next week.
07-27-2017, 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by Annie
You mean your name isn't Watchman? confused and shaking my head.
Of course my real name is Watchman .... it just isn't my full first name! :vs_shocked:
07-27-2017, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cricket
FWIW I admin on a diabetes forum and know quite a few with Type 2 diabetes who are not overweight, control their diet, are very active, and still have diabetes.
Just sayin' is all...
Type 2 is one of the diseases recognized by the VA for boots-on-the-ground Vietnam vets as being caused by exposure to the defoliant Agent Orange.
07-27-2017, 09:43 PM
Originally Posted by MaterielGeneral
I have been slowly acquiring other things like a couple walker, IV pole and I'm trying to get a simple wheel chair but the old farts at the auction are paying to much for it.
Go visit your local American Legion or VFW. I know post that have a wheel chair, walker loaner program . They take in donations clean, repair then loan out to folks that need them. Not every post does this but again I know of at least one that does.
Bought a wheel chair at Goodwill around 6pm tonight. Not to bad of shape defiantly serviceable. All for the low cost of $8.00. Today was veterans day or something like that. Got a bag of oxygen tubing and a cannula for $2.99 and a CB radio for $4.00 also.
07-28-2017, 09:24 AM
Originally Posted by MaterielGeneral
Man you people are old. I'm 47 now and still feel mentally like 30ish. Physically there is some aches and pains but manageable. Every since Zack came home from the hospital I made it a mission to obtain oxygen. I was able to obtain a filled bottle and an unfilled bottle. Now I am working on getting the bottle filled. I ordered the masks off of ebay. They are supposed to be disposable but I ordered two each. One to be used and the other getting cleaned/sanitized and then put back into rotation. I got the face mask, nasal cannula and a rebreather mask.
I have been slowly acquiring other things like a couple walker, IV pole and I'm trying to get a simple wheel chair but the old farts at the auction are paying to much for it. I have most trauma and short term care covered, now I am slowly working on clinical items. I have the manual thermometer and blood pressure gauge now I have the electronic versions. The manual ones are now in the medic back pack for field use.
I have some threads on a couple different forums to meet people and was recently contacted by a gentleman in his 70's and that really opened my eyes to a lot of things. I wiped my kids buts when they came into this world, my kids better be ready to wipe mine when I am on my way out of this world. Someone a barely know, I don't know so much about that. I have military and law enforcement tactical training and army medic training but I cant be the family doc and lead tactically at the same time in a SHTF event. Any Doctors or RN's near Cadillac hit me up. If you provide your own food I can provide safety and security for you and yours.
Watch out for the O2 masks. They SHOULD NOT be used at less than 6 liters per minute. Your nasal cannula should do everything you need. If you can find a highflow nasal cannula it would be better than all put together except for the non-rebreather. The non-rebreather should not be used at less than 10 liters per minute. In fact I don't think I have used a standard mask in 10 years. We use cannulas and highflow cannulas all the time. I have seen concentrators on ebay and Craigs List quite often. Tanks are a little harder to find. I have several smaller (M, I think) at my home from when I owned my Respiratory Therapy company. PM me and lets see If I can get some of them out to you. If used at 2LPM they last 2 hours If I remember correctly.
08-05-2017, 09:38 AM
Originally Posted by RJAMES
You are correct but most who have a problem have type 1 and will cease to have it if they loose the weight and control diet.
This is fascinating topic . I really think it's more importantly a matter of what you eat, it's not just loosing the weight.