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This is a discussion on Our teachers within the Political News and Topics forums, part of the General Discussion category; Originally Posted by stowlin When you really want to torched yourself look up how many California teachers are paid to check in at an office ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stowlin View Post
    When you really want to torched yourself look up how many California teachers are paid to check in at an office cubicle and not teach. They've been removed from the room because of complaints waiting to be investigated. They can't be fired until investigators prove wrong doing. Investigations take 2-5 years so they sit in a cube and collect full wages, defined benefit retirement and best health insurance ever. Last I heard LA city schools needed a bigger building for them.
    Alcatraz is empty. I'm sure is in need of some repairs. Set the powder puffs in for a couple years of team building and work ethics reeducation.
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    This is not the case in CA. In CA they are promised a phat return and when the markets declined in 08/9 they couldn't match the promise so they demand money from the state and schools to make it up. We also have a problem called spiking. A teacher is paid $60k for 20 years average and should get a $30k pension, but they spike it. They get a job as a deputy principal for $90k then principal for $120k and cash in vacation time to collect $150k in the last year and receive $75k in pension returns for life. How is a state suppose to afford that when they save to pay on a $60k wage for 20 years?


    Quote Originally Posted by NotTooProudToHide View Post
    I don't know about everywhere else but here the problem with public pensions including those of teachers is the last decade our liberal state government has robbed the pension funds to spend on other stupid shit like entitlement programs. Now they're in the hole and people are screaming to cut pensions for public employees and that isn't right, those people have contributed their part of the bargain.

    I think a big part of the problem is the school boards do waste a good portion of the money they collect on things that are not a priority like new state of the art athletic facilities, take home computers for every student that they get to keep upon graduation, not to mention all the money spent on catering every time they have a meeting. I do think kids should have access to computers but I don't get why don't they just use computer labs like they did when I was in school, if anybody here is a teacher please enlighten me on this.

    I do think it should be the parents choice of how their child is educated but I don't believe in vouchers to do so. If you can afford private schooling or have the time/expertise to home school then by all means that is your choice but public money shouldn't go beyond paying for public schools.

    I make no apologizes for the fact that I do support the idea of public schools and the idea of government backed financial aid for secondary schools. It ensures even the poorest among us has the opportunity to be educated from kindergarten through PHD provided they can make good enough grades to qualify. I do think we need some serious reform in how money is spent and how loans are given out, there is no reason why college kids are using student loan money to go to Florida for spring break and there doesn't need to be free coffee and doughnuts at every facility meeting. I also think the primary purpose of schools is to prepare students to succeed upon graduation whether they go to college or enter the workforce. That's going to require more technical and or vocational education which I have no problems with. If a kid doesn't want to read Shakespeare but loves working on cars then let him take as many mechanical classes as he wants which will prepare him for a fine career as an auto mechanic, an electrician, a plumber, or whatever else he/she wants to do. A big problem now is colleges are doing the job that high school's used to do. We fix that and all the sudden the demand for college goes down drastically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty901 View Post
    Parents should get every dime they pay in school taxes back to use in another form of education. Public schools have nothing to do with education it is all indoctrination and agenda. Colleges are pretty much the same now also.
    Middle income and poor families should not be held captive by public schools they need away out.
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    Why do parents dream of sending their kids to private schools? Is it because they are all racists and which to get their kids away from the "colored people"? That's what Black Lies Matter will say. But we know the truth. It's simply because the education is BETTER! Hell, that's why the majority of black parents would jump at the chance to get their kids in a private school as well.

    We need to make public school operate that same way. If they gave out a superior product, then people would be pushing to get kids int public schools. If they did, then people would be happy to send tax $$$ to the public schools, vs a waiver to send it to a private school. Hell, I'd have no issue at all w/ 6 figure salaries for teachers that pumped out young people that were well educated, and ready for the world (academically).

    Instead, we have union flunkies seeking MASSIVE pension, salary, and insurance benefits while not even hitting the minimums. In the school district where I live, only 2 schools in the district havs hit the State minimums. Guess which they are? The gifted academy schools (elem entry and middle school). In those 2 schools, the % of students that Met or Exceeded state minimums are 90.5% and 89.7% (2015-2016 school year).

    Outside of the gifted academies you have the "general schools". Also, the gifter kids get lumped into the "general schools" once they hit high school. The 3rd ranked school in the district is only @ 42.6%. Our four high schools rank at 16.1% (this one included our HS gifted academy), 14.2%, 13.2%, & 10%.

    Yet we pay that some of the highest property taxes in the nation, and we have am unfunded pension problem that is out of this world. Hell, our teachers aren't even in the Social Security system! They instead belong to a thing called the "Teachers Retirement System (TRS)". In most Illinois districts, teachers only pay a portion of their retirement (which is then guaranteed by the taxpayers), but in my town teachers yap $0.00 towards it. Yep, us taxpayers pay 100% of it!"

    This state is run lock-fist by democrats, and has been for years. Even our supposedly Republican governor can only slow down the damage since he's all alone (and in my opinion he seems to be a bit of a RINO). This what happens when socialists take over.

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    Ny now says teachers do not even have to understand English. Long as they have the agenda down good to go.
    New life as a house husband, major shift in duties.

    Karl Marx said, "Destroy their culture, rewrite their history. Ruin their art and literature, and defame their heroes, by offering fabrications to scandalize that which they considered good.
    After reading this Obama said I am on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty901 View Post
    Ny now says teachers do not even have to understand English. Long as they have the agenda down good to go.
    In CA they have a bill before the state to exempt teaches from State Income taxes. Guess they just can't sell a raise so they go about it this way.

    I am certain prison guards and nurses are next. Why is that? Because teachers gave the progressives the 3rd most money, prison guards 2nd, and nurses the most. Public employee unions at work means we all get to pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stowlin View Post
    In CA they have a bill before the state to exempt teaches from State Income taxes. Guess they just can't sell a raise so they go about it this way.

    I am certain prison guards and nurses are next. Why is that? Because teachers gave the progressives the 3rd most money, prison guards 2nd, and nurses the most. Public employee unions at work means we all get to pay.
    Because the teachers work for the party 100%
    New life as a house husband, major shift in duties.

    Karl Marx said, "Destroy their culture, rewrite their history. Ruin their art and literature, and defame their heroes, by offering fabrications to scandalize that which they considered good.
    After reading this Obama said I am on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty901 View Post
    Because the teachers work for the party 100%
    Na it's about 91%. About ten percent go together and demanded union dues only be allowed for politics if approved. 9% took a cut in their dues and stopped the flow to the state Dem party.

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    For everyone that gets caught 100's get away with it and 100's more get covered up.

    Missouri teacher charged with sexual misconduct with 10 students.
    Get them out of public schools now. There are no protection for them there. No madder what it takes get your children and grand children out.

    Missouri teacher charged with sexual misconduct with 10 students | Fox News
    New life as a house husband, major shift in duties.

    Karl Marx said, "Destroy their culture, rewrite their history. Ruin their art and literature, and defame their heroes, by offering fabrications to scandalize that which they considered good.
    After reading this Obama said I am on it.

 

 
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