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If Zimmerman Didn't Have a Gun Would Trayvon Martin Be Alive? Anti gun video

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#1 ·

There are some stupid people in our world but these people top the list. They mock gun owners and keep making them selves sound so intellegent but there reasoning is incorrect. My favorite line is "your hobby kills 10000's of people a year" then goes on to say his hobby of fantasy football doesnt kill little children. They twists gun owners words and say that people dont kill people guns kill people because with a gun someone would be more willing to attack someone. Check 2:20 2:40 3:30 and 6:00 for some of the stupided lines.
 
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No.

He would not be alive.

Zimmern's statements to police were consistent with his wounds that he had actually blacked out for a second and was coming to when he decided to grab his gun. Martin was on top of him and beating Zimmern's head into the pavement. As far as Martin was concerned, the assault was over. If he felt he was under attack, that attack was over and there was no more threat. Yet Martin continued to beat Zimmern. It could have been adrenalin, passion, fear, vengeance, rage, or a common disregard for life - who knows. Fact remains Martin continued to beat Zimmern after Zimmern went limp and unconscious.

If Martin had some form of medical training and an acute understanding of how much punishment and abuse a body could absorb before it becomes mortally injured, then I would listen to arguments (might not believe them) that Martin was continuing to assault Zimmern just to the point of no return as an added safety measure. But since Martin had no such exposure to medical training, or training of any vocation for that matter, I cannot entertain that the punishment Martin continued to dole out was anything shy of intent to kill.
 
#3 ·
I thought it was a real smart idea for Zimmerman's lawyers to drop his "stand your ground" legal defense in his case. He clearly was outside the ambit of protection of the stand your ground law when he continued to pursue Martin, leading to the ultimate confrontation. He has a real chance of making a self-defense claim stick, given the pictures of his head injuries supporting his story.
 
#9 ·
Ya'll do understand that if Zimmerman is acquitted, it will spark riots.
I do expect Zimmerman to be acquitted btw.
Not worried...
I do the right thing. If there are consequences from being right, I will live with that.
If there are riots there will be riots. Hell, there are riots if some one wins or loses the Superbowl.

Take care of what you can and control what is within your realm.
Then when something from outside happens you will be better equipped to roll with the punches.
Que Sera Sera...
 
#10 ·
I doubt Zimmerman would have died. Ass beat, yes. Died, no. So yea, Martin would have lived if Zimmerman did not have a gun. Was Zimmerman just in protecting himself by firing at an unarmed man, that's up to the jury to decide. However, if Martin had a gun too, then **** yea I would have shot Martin too.
 
#13 ·
Check the statistics for alcohol, vehicles, & rape. Only rape is illegal but the numbers would be far less if the victims had guns. Alcohol & vehicle deaths are MUCH higher but nobody complains.
 
#14 ·
The only ones to blame for the alcohol, vehicles and rape are the judges, lawyers and PC people. We can't all get along and sooner or later people will figure that out. Again I say, let certain states secede and live as they want, and the idiots that want all this peace, love and share the wealth crap can have it, just keep it in your area and pay for it your selves!
 
#16 ·
All I can say is ACQUIT ZIMMERMAN!!! That kid got what we asked for and then some. Instead of looking at the death of one young man, I look at how many potential future victims were saved from him. Not to mention the amount of money Florida taxpayers have saved by not paying for poor Trayvon's future, and I'm sure numerous, trials and incarcerations. That was the path he was headed down.
 
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My thoughts exactly!! He was the type of person that would have spent his entire life in and out of the prison system and mooching off of the guberment when he wasn't incarcerated!! More than likely, Zimmerman saved the life of a future victim of Martin!! He was a punk that was on drugs at the time of the shooting and suspended from school for numerous times including at the time of the shooting..
 
#18 ·
He thought he was some kind of tough guy fighter and thought he would kick some security guys ass.. I guess he was too stupid to think the guy was carrying a weapon!! Personally, I think the kid got what he deserved and to be completely honest, I am glad the little prick was killed!! It's all POOR TRAYVON on the news as they show his picture that is several years old making him look like an angel..
 
#19 ·
I admit I had to stop watching as soon as the guy said "Travon Martin would be alive today if it weren't for the gun."

We will never know for sure, but I would argue that is a 50/50 bet at best. Martin was obviously a bad seed. He had drug issues. He seems to have had some kind of gang-banger-wanna-be attitude. This obviously was not his first street fight. None of those are traits that lend themselves well to a long and happy life. To say that Martin would be alive today, almost a year and a half after the incident if the incident had not occurred is a big stretch. If Zimmerman had not shot him, it seems pretty likely to me that somebody else would have sooner or later. - Most likely sooner.

That is not to say that Zimmerman is not a colossal dumb-ass. But fortunately for Zimmerman, it is not yet illegal to be an idiot.
 
#20 ·
Perhaps it could be said if the local law had been doing their job there would have been no need for Zimmerman to do neighborhood watch? Wasn't that area a very high crime area? Maybe if the law was patrolling the streets instead of guarding the Mr. Donuts, private citizens wouldn't feel the need to protect their own neighborhood?
 
#21 ·
I'm sure this kids parents will sue the police department next with the good Reverend Al Sharpton leading the way.
 
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The police can't be everywhere. It is up to citizens to be vigilant unless you would want a police state.

The real problem is there are worse consequences for being a victim than being a criminal. Society has decided that criminals may have had a bad childhood and therefore it's not their fault. It is the fault of the victim for tempting the criminal. If they didn't have all that stuff that the criminal didn't have, the criminal would not have had to liberate that stuff so he could share.
 
#28 ·
My guess is from what I seen on t.v. and believe to be true, had Zimmerman not had a weapon, he'd either be dead, or suffering from massive brain trauma. My question is who would allow their heads to be bounced off a concrete walkway without doing everything in their power to stop it, including shooting someone? How many blows to the head can a person withstand before they are unable to defend themselves even with a gun? When head meet concrete, concrete wins every time. I just heard yesterday that in Fla, as it is in my state, it doesn't matter who started the fight (not saying I believe Zimmerman did) as long as you are trying to de-escalate the situation, you still have a right to defend yourself, including deadly force.
 
#30 ·
There were a couple of jerks out that night. One will not be a jerk anymore. If the other one learned anything remains to be seen. I think from what I have seen thus far that Z will be acquitted and riots will result. Conversely if Z is convicted I believe we will still see riots street gangs of any race are drooling at the opportunity as are opportunistic freelance socialists of all colors. One way or another we should soon see how this pans out.
 
#31 ·
Another stellar decision by the judge in Zimmerman's trial. Of course, to the benefit of the prosecution. Heaven forbid the jury were able to see anything that demonstrated the true character (or lack of) of Trayvon Martin. Or his mindset and propensity for violence that ultimately lead to his death. "No. Members of the jury, you will not be allowed to see the text messages where the "victim" describes his passion and willingness for violence and fighting."

I'm surprised the prosecution didn't object to the defense being able to present its case at all and the judge sustaining the objection. That's about all that hasn't happened in this trial. Thankfully though, it has been clearly demonstrated that the judge is incompetent and is ruling based on thoughts of her future political career and has opened the door for numerous valid appeals should Zimmerman be found guilty.
 
#32 ·
The video asks the wrong question. The question should be: if Trayvon Martin had not attacked Zimmerman, would he still be alive?
I tend to look at it this way - Martin committed suicide by attacking a man that was armed with a gun.
And the apologists who say that being aggressive is just part of the "black culture" need to understand that polite society does not allow this.
 
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Were the idiots in the video sincerly concerned with reducing the murder rate they would have put up the FBI numbers that show a bladed weapon is the number one weapon used to kill someone, second is a blunt object like a pipe or baseball bat, third is the human body (as in killed with your hands, and finally fourth is a gun.

But we all know that's not the political agenda at play here. It's also possible they are just idiots who are not informed about the murder rate and the weapons of choice mankind will use to kill people.
 
#37 ·
No. kill him becouse he needed killing.
ve tried to be silent, but hell no, Not anyomore.
I wasn't there, you weren't there..I dont care what color, size, man or woman, from my "understanding", what the news has told me, Z was on his back, straddled by M, and drew his firearm and killed M.
Only one person alive knows the beginning and middle act of the story, the third chapter involved was obviously the shot fired. Now the courts will decide the fifth chapter, and hopefully this sad story will fade.
Have you ever been in a streetfight, life and death, with your head being bounced off the ground? Me either, but I promise you, for whatever the reason, whatever the color, why the hell ever, if my head is being bounced off the ground, Im gonna shoot.
YEAH, I know, you already called racist on a few of my remarks and posts, so be it. I will stand my ground..
 
#38 ·
God those people are moron's, lacking in sense to the extreme with more concern for someone bent on a life of crime, entitlement and violence than people who just want to live peacefully, work and keep their family and friends safe, but know how dangerous the world is and that they need to defend themselves from it. There seem to be some here too. Trayvon got what he asks for in his actions and lifestyle choice and I'm happy he's not around anymore. Now if a large number of scumbags would like to follow him, it might be a better country afterwards.
 
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